I know that I am new to the list and I have not read everything, but I have to say something. I am not trying to make anyone mad or get nasty emails from anyone, but I was under the impression that this was a place to discuss creed and other things concerning music. From what I have read it is people talking mean to each other and putting each other down. I haven't really encountered anything to do with music at all I think there was one or two that I read that had anything to do with creed. As I said before I am not looking to upset anyone, but I like creed and am glad that there is a place for all types of people to share there ideas and opinions on this band. I hope that there is someone out there that shares my opinion in this matter and that we can get back to what this site is really for. thank you and again I apologize if I upset or offended anyone.