-Greg

In the first place: I do NOT copy cd's, nor have any illegal cd's in my possession.

In the second place: you're not supposed to be nice.

I would love to meet you in the business world trying to get that argument past management.

-Greg

I'm not talking about 'the holy business world', I am talking about music!

This also applies to the guys who said that according to me it was okay to steal a dodge.

Again, I was not talking about material things, nor computer software, I was talking about music, just fucking MUSIC!

It is funny how you guys have a tendency to take one tiny excerpt of a message, only to jump on the poster without even reading the whole post. So here is again a part from my original message:

- It is also very much the question whether a person who pays 1 or 2 dollars for a burned cd, thinks that same cd is worth 20 dollars, so that when it could not be burned, he wouldn't have bought it anyway. Or, he thinks the cd is that good so he will buy the original cd also. the way i see it, everybody should be able to listen to music, even those who can't afford original cd's. and I thought that that was what rock & roll was all about. If creed and wind-up are really so upset by people who copy cd's, maybe they should do something about the price of a cd. Just like they are not making enough money already with almost a million original cd's sold in one week. I don't think they have that much to complain about. -

Of course, by default, copying cd's without paying for it is illegal, so if you can, you should pay (that's why i don't have copied cd's). But what if oxygen was charged $1 per liter, and you couldn't pay that anymore? just too bad eh? So now you'll say: That's different, it's ridiculous to think someday there has to be payed for oxygen. and it is.

but what oxygen is for you, is what music is for me (without doubt worth to be payed for, but what if I can't?). If I for some reason could not listen to music anymore, I'd probably kill myself. so if i could not afford original cd's, then, yes, I would copy cd's. And you know as good as I do not everybody can afford original cd's. just too bad eh? Don't think so.

feel free to flame me (quite a good example given by Greg -see above), or react in any other way (that would be quite a nice exception) but I am actually trying to put an end to this discussion.