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From: Nikki Rau

To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM

Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:28 PM

Subject: Re: just a few thoughts...CR and NCR

In a message dated 11/29/2001 2:02:35 AM Central Standard Time, creedyrn4ever@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

k, i missed all of ww3 here the past couple of days, due to listserve
problems...but i am sure as hell gonna put my two cents in...and if you have
a problem with it, feel free to flame me here on the list, don't bother to
take it private...i've been on this list for quite some time, so i have
nothing to hide from anyone here...

first off, and i WILL take this personal...anjy, get a life...you have
offended people who have been on this list for years before you became a
poser-creed fan...considering you couldn't even name the original
bassist...there are folks here who were creed fans back when they wer still
going under their original name...care to answer that trivia question?  and
going to the list admin did nothing to endear you to anyone...you are the
one who said you could take the heat as well as dish it out...yet you run
for help as soon as things get too hot and heavy...if you want to talk
creed, make sure you've got your facts or your sources straight first...
second, this list has gone to hell in a handbasket...yeah, it's
cliquey...those of us who know creed, and/or the facts as they've been
presented...so gimme a break...i truly don't care who's fucking who...i care
about the music...thought that's what this was about...
as for who's flaming who...take that shit outside the list, k?  i have a lot
of friends here, who flame each other regularly...don't make me choose sides
here...
last of all, yeah, why the hell would the band want to post here?  we can't
f*ing get along, why the hell would they want to jump into the fray?  get a
clue people...we are all here because of creed...LISTEN TO 'ONE'...and get a
frigging clue...this list has devolved into a bunch of bullshit because this
one or that one can't agree to disagree...if i were ed, i'd seriously
consider pullling this list...which is a damn shame, because it's the best
place to get creed info...which is why we're all here in the first place,
right?

GET A LIFE, PEOPLE(WON'T MENTION WHO IN PARTICULAR THIS IS DIRECTED AT)
CREED IS A BAND...THEY ARE THE REASON WE ARE ALL HERE...BUT THEY ARE HUMAN
TOO...WE ARE NOT ALWAYS GOING TO AGREE...GET OVER IT...BUT LETS STOP WITH
THE DIRECT ATTACKS ON EACH OTHER...AND LET'S NOT FUCK UP AND POST THINGS WE
SHOULDN'T BE...
Lee

Lee, that was a great post..I've been wanting to say something along those lines for a while now, but I figured some people would think I was whining again, so I just kept my mouth shut.

~Nikki