From: "Verrronica Smith" <Verrronica@AOL.COM>
To: <CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM>
Date: Thu
8 Nov 2001 01:18:22 EST

Are you kidding me?? Holy hell....I NEVER heard him say anything like that....never even saw him pay any attention to the groupies. Wow....I mean, I've seen him be a drunken asshole....rude, arrogant, but nothing like that....and when he's sober, he's kinda shy...I've also seen him being a fun drunk too. But regardless....I've heard him create some magnificent music, and that's why I love seeing the band!

In a message dated 11/8/01 1:13:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, kthulu@COMTECK.COM writes:

When I saw them at XFest this past summer, I was incredibly offended. Travis actually pointed out an audience member, and while she WAS incredibly hot, she sure didn't need to be told in front of 16,000 people that he would "definitely be fucking her up the ass tonight". I'm a MAN, and that offended me enough to get up and leave.