Re: This is not Creed discussion anymore......

From: "David Becroft" <dbecroft@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM>
Date: Sat
18 Aug 2001 03:22:40 +1000

Ok guns are not addictive. that is what traps adicts so bad example. But most criminals have the sence to go for a cheaper gun.




"To the world u may be one person, but to one person u may be the world"
-author unknown
Sounds cool & something to think About love yous all.
Dave.
>From: "King_Dovregubben"
>To: "'David Becroft'" ,
>Subject: RE: This is not Creed discussion anymore......
>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:32:55 -0700
>
>It doesn't price them out of the hands of criminals anymore than drugs
>have been priced out of the hands of addicts.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Creed Discussion List [mailto:CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM] On
>Behalf Of David Becroft
>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 8:43 AM
>To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM
>Subject: Re: This is not Creed discussion anymore......
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>Hey you are right it doesn't matter if i like the statistics but hey
>with statistics you can make them sound like anything.
>
>Alright thank you for the booming market I must say cause if you deliver
>a supply side shock especially on Illegal weaponary than the Black
>market pricing i.e. Risk of supply incentive of demand profit versus
>risk & other factors will force the price of that particular weapon out
>of the reach of the average criminal & anyway if a criminal had the
>money to buy a illegal weapon do you think they would use it on a ram
>raid or in a mugging where the return on it is so low there is no value.
>Anyway Booming Market there is both a supply side shock (the illegality
>of the weapon) & a demand side shock in Australia as well as most people
>dont want this type of weaponry but can find legal weaponry for
>recreational shooting.
>
>so that what I think whether you agree with it or not is your choice but
>dont put american values onto a differing culture especially one that
>doesn't believe the almighty gun solves everything.
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>"To the world u may be one person, but to one person u may be the world"
>
>-author unknown
>Sounds cool & something to think About love yous all.
>Dave.
> >From: "King_Dovregubben"
> >To: "'David Becroft'" ,
> >Subject: RE: This is not Creed discussion anymore......
> >Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:56:42 -0700
> >
> >Too bad they aren't MY figures. And whether or not you LIKE them is
> >irrelevant
> >
> >If the supply of ANYTHING is limited, you create a booming market.
> >Happens every time.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Creed Discussion List [mailto:CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM] On
> >Behalf Of David Becroft
> >Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:08 AM
> >To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM
> >Subject: Re: This is not Creed discussion anymore......
> >
> >
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> >Look lingo wise nothing different also criminal culture in australia is
>
> >different to the US some of the problems are starting to surface but it
>
> >is isolated. Hopefully with what is seen copy cats wont surface & in a
> >way I dont think it will but the gun laws have not made it safer for
> >criminals I will state that you have a culture of a right to bear arms
> >great fine but if some one was robbing your house a gun or a baseball
> >bat (if you have surprise). Anyway if the suply of guns is limited than
>
> >a criminal will have to resort to other weaponary. (although Black
> >Markets will still exsist). So yeah but I don't like your figures & i
> >think that they are inaccurate & are blaming 1 factor rather than a
>few.
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> >
> >"To the world u may be one person, but to one person u may be the
>world"
> >
> >-author unknown
> >Sounds cool & something to think About love yous all.
> >Dave.
> > >From: King_Dovregubben
> > >Reply-To: King_Dovregubben
> > >To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM
> > >Subject: Re: This is not Creed discussion anymore......
> > >Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 23:07:07 -0700
> > >
> > >Australia actually had gun confiscation. Seems the populace didn't
> > >realize that gun registration was the first step to confiscation. The
>
> > >results were increases in gun related crimes. Up to 300% in some
>areas,
> >
> > >40% nationwide. It cost the taxpayers $500M to make the country safer
>
> > >for criminals.
> > >
> > >Here's some info:
> > >
> > >http://www.devvy.com/australia.html
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Creed Discussion List
> > > > [mailto:CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM] On Behalf Of
> > > > Moonchild119@AOL.COM
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 10:54 PM
> > > > To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM
> > > > Subject: Re: This is not Creed discussion anymore......
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is it true that in Australia they have hella strict gun
> > > > laws?.. Im just curious,honestly.
> > > > I'm going to be a foreign exchange student to Australia in
> > > > 4 months. Is there anything drastically diferent from the US
> > > > that I should know about? Any Australian lingo?
> > > > Rachel aka Moonchild
> > > >
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