Actually Lee......it was hard to read cause we have on the email things color changes and stuff  like that and smiles and all that and didn't know that thru this list it wasn't allowed due to the embedding thing, as i said in the other email that was sent after V, lolol....was glad V had a good long letter:) That that made sense when getting non delieverable things, makes more sense that someone said "hey don't do it" hehe.......Yeah i love how she broke it all down and keepin this for safe keeping!:) I think that's what that PRIMER meant right.......When you said sharing it with another list, you are talkin to V right????? Good.... lololol........knew he couldn't be sayin share the Creedlove with another list lmaooo

  Lee Reed <creedyrn4ever@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

wow, v, i'm impressed...i had a hard enough time reading her email, much
less trying to keep some semblance of composure in replying...btw, i'm
saving this one as a 'primer' on creed, for when we get overwhelmed with the
new members at tour time...and if you don't mind, sharing it with another
list...(no offense, michele, but that was awful hard to read!)
Lee


>From: Verrronica Smith
>Reply-To: Verrronica@AOL.COM
>>Hey Michele....
>
>first of all.....cut down on the caffiene intake and take a deep breathe!
>
>Second.....I have a favor to ask of you. Could you please not use the
>smiley
>faces in your list mail. Several of the list members have their mail
>settings to not receive embedded images in their mail, which means I get a
>mailer deamon messege for each one of them everytime I respond to one of
>your
>posts. Thanks in advance for that.
>
>Now, on to the Creed stuff. When you say SP I'm assuming you mean Scott
>Stapp....even though I would think you'd use SS for short. Most of us just
>call him Stapp, so as not to confuse him with Scottie Phillips....although
>we
>usually call him Flip....his nickname. By the way, they all have
>nicknames.
>Stapp is sometimes called Scottie, but I personally hate that nickname for
>him.....Mark is Brutus or True, and Flip is of course, Flip.
>
>I was referring to Woodstock 99. I am older than you, but not old enough
>to
>have been at the first Woodstock, and of course Stapp wasn't even born yet,
>so no...Creed didn't play there.
>
>Stapp is 28 years old, born August 8th, 1973. Mark is 27, born April April
>18th, 1974 and Flip is also 28, born February 22, 1973. Their former
>bassist, Brian Marshall is actually the one who came up with the name Creed
>for the band. He used to be in a band called Maddox Creed, and they liked
>the Creed part. He's currently in a new band called Grand Luxx. By the
>way,
>his nickname was Willy, he's also 28, born on April 24, 1973. And there
>are
>those of us who consider Creed incomplete without him.
>
>As for groupies.....ahh....No, they're not into them. Well at least Mark
>and
>Flip are not. They both are involved with long time girlfriends. Some
>people believe that Flip is married, however, I've heard this is a rumor.
>At
>anyrate, Stapp was never into the groupie scene before, during his
>marriage,
>or shortly thereafter....however I can't speak for him now that's he's
>single....who knows, maybe he likes groupies. As for liking the giggly
>fans....again, who knows. Whenever I saw them interact with fans, no one
>was
>giggly. They seemed to like the honest people, the ones who asked
>intriguing
>questions, not the ones that drooled all over them. But it's been a while
>since I've seen them, hard to say what they're into now. Hopefully not
>groupies though....I'd have to kick some ass if I saw that....both theirs,
>and the groupies!
>
>Scott writes the song lyrics....Mark writes the guitar parts and
>occasionally
>some of the lyrics....very few though. He's the backup vocalist. At least
>he was until they started bringing Brett out on tour with them. That would
>be Brett Hestla, singer and guitarist for the band Virgos. He's a good
>friend of theirs and was their touring bassist since Brian left the band in
>August of 2000......Brett now does the backing vocals, which I think sucks.
>
>You haven't heard true Creed until you've heard the My Own Prison album.
>Do
>yourself a favor and buy it ASAP. The first album is and always will be
>their best album.
>
>Any other questions?
>
> V
>
>>

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